Monday, May 06, 2013
No Holds Barred: Nathan Hatton on His Book 'Rugged Game' and the History of Catch Wrestling
On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman speaks with Nathan Hatton.
He is the author of the new book about catch wrestling history entitled Rugged Game: Community, Culture and Wrestling at the Lakehead to 1933.
Dr. Hatton, who describes himself as a recreational wrestler, will be teaching history at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada, starting this fall.
This book details the rich history of both amateur and professional wrestling from the late 1800s to 1933 in the Lakehead, Ontario, region, whose main city is now today known as Thunder Bay.
Although it is published by the Lakehead University Centre for Northern Studies, and has numerous, helpful footnotes and ample documentation, this book was written for the general public and is highly readable. Dr. Hatton said his aim was to "bridge the gap" between popular writing and academic research, and he certainly has succeeded with this book.
Unlike today, in those days much of professional wrestling was a real sport, although to what degree is still debated. There also was considerable cooperation and connection between many of the people involved in amateur and professional wrestling.
"There was a real heyday for wrestling on this continent between the early 1880s and into the early to mid-1920s, where you had the development of catch-as-catch-wrestling," said Dr. Hatton in this interview, which was recorded over Skype on Sunday. "Catch-as-catch-can is really the precursor to modern freestyle/folkstyle wrestling." In catch wrestling, you can win by pin or submission.
With stars like world heavyweight champion Frank Gotch and many internationally-known as well as local wrestlers, professional wrestling was a major sport.
"There was a period, when much like boxing, the best wrestlers unquestionably on the planet were professional wrestlers," he explained.
There were also numerous grassroots wrestling clubs and organizations, including many based in the working class and working class organizations, such as the Finnish Labour Temple and even the Communist Party of Canada and the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW).
The book details the relation of the growth of wrestling in this region to the growth of the economy, industry, and trade, as well as the accompanying national and ethnic tensions and disputes.
We discussed the growth and decline of catch wrestling in this region, how much of it we can be certain was real and how much was staged, the lessons this period teaches for reviving catch wrestling today, and much, much more.
Rugged Game: Community, Culture and Wrestling at the Lakehead to 1933 by Nathan Hatton is a must-read book for wrestling historians and aficionados, combat sports fans, labor historians and activists, and anybody who appreciates good sports history. Buy it, read it, learn, enjoy, and pass on its lessons.
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Also, No Holds Barred is available through iTunes.
The No Holds Barred theme song is called "The Heist", which is also available on iTunes by composer Ian Snow.
No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:
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He is the author of the new book about catch wrestling history entitled Rugged Game: Community, Culture and Wrestling at the Lakehead to 1933.
Dr. Hatton, who describes himself as a recreational wrestler, will be teaching history at Lakehead University in Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada, starting this fall.
This book details the rich history of both amateur and professional wrestling from the late 1800s to 1933 in the Lakehead, Ontario, region, whose main city is now today known as Thunder Bay.
Although it is published by the Lakehead University Centre for Northern Studies, and has numerous, helpful footnotes and ample documentation, this book was written for the general public and is highly readable. Dr. Hatton said his aim was to "bridge the gap" between popular writing and academic research, and he certainly has succeeded with this book.
Unlike today, in those days much of professional wrestling was a real sport, although to what degree is still debated. There also was considerable cooperation and connection between many of the people involved in amateur and professional wrestling.
"There was a real heyday for wrestling on this continent between the early 1880s and into the early to mid-1920s, where you had the development of catch-as-catch-wrestling," said Dr. Hatton in this interview, which was recorded over Skype on Sunday. "Catch-as-catch-can is really the precursor to modern freestyle/folkstyle wrestling." In catch wrestling, you can win by pin or submission.
With stars like world heavyweight champion Frank Gotch and many internationally-known as well as local wrestlers, professional wrestling was a major sport.
"There was a period, when much like boxing, the best wrestlers unquestionably on the planet were professional wrestlers," he explained.
There were also numerous grassroots wrestling clubs and organizations, including many based in the working class and working class organizations, such as the Finnish Labour Temple and even the Communist Party of Canada and the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW).
The book details the relation of the growth of wrestling in this region to the growth of the economy, industry, and trade, as well as the accompanying national and ethnic tensions and disputes.
We discussed the growth and decline of catch wrestling in this region, how much of it we can be certain was real and how much was staged, the lessons this period teaches for reviving catch wrestling today, and much, much more.
Rugged Game: Community, Culture and Wrestling at the Lakehead to 1933 by Nathan Hatton is a must-read book for wrestling historians and aficionados, combat sports fans, labor historians and activists, and anybody who appreciates good sports history. Buy it, read it, learn, enjoy, and pass on its lessons.
You can play or download No Holds Barred here and here. If one link doesn't work, please try another.
No Holds Barred is also available on mobile phones and iPads through Stitcher.
Also, No Holds Barred is available through iTunes.
The No Holds Barred theme song is called "The Heist", which is also available on iTunes by composer Ian Snow.
No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:
ONE Fighting Championship. ONE FC is Asia's largest and most prestigious mixed martial arts event. ONE FC features the best Asian fighters and has initiated the ONE Asia Partnership Network, which includes most of the major MMA promotions and MMA gyms in Asia. For more information, go to their web site, at ONEFC.com.
Beezid.com - Penny Auctions. Your #1 source for exciting auction shopping and outstanding deals on just about anything! Top rated, most trusted auction site online. Where do you shop? Beezid.com - Penny Auctions.
American Top Team. Whether you're a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at http://americantopteam.com/.
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Thursday, April 07, 2011
No Holds Barred: Mark Pavelich on MFC 29 and MMA in Ontario, Weekend Preview

On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman once again speaks with Mark Pavelich, the owner and president of the Maximum Fighting Championship (MFC).
MFC will be holding its first show in the province of Ontario, Canada, this Friday, April 8. MFC 29 will take place at Caesars Windsor and be telecast live on HDNet Fights.
Headlining this card are two title fights. MFC light heavyweight champion Ryan Jimmo (14-1) will face Zak Cummings (13-2), while MFC welterweight champion Douglas Lima (17-4) will fight Terry Martin (21-8).
We spoke with the always-outspoken Mark Pavelich by phone on Wednesday about the significance of this show as MFC continues to grow as a promotion. He explained why MFC has been so successful, and why he expects many of the new MMA events cropping up in Ontario not to last. He offered his thoughts on the buyout by Zuffa, the parent company of UFC, of Strikeforce, and how that deal is likely to end up. We discussed how the Ontario Athletics Commission is only permitting the use of a cage, and not a ring, in mixed martial arts. We also discussed the relationship between boxing and MMA, and much more.
We also offer a weekend preview of the major combat sports events around the world.
In wrestling, the U.S. Open takes place April 8 and 9 in Cleveland, Ohio, with a live webcast on TheMat.com.
Boxing is headlined by the Hozumi Hasegawa-Jhonny Gonzalez featherweight title fight on April 8 in Kobe, Japan, and the Marcos Maidana-Erik Morales fight on April 9 in Las Vegas, Nevada.
Besides the important MFC card, this is another busy weekend in MMA. On Saturday, April 9, Bellator 40 comes from the First Council Casino in Newkirk, Oklahoma, and will be telecast live in the U.S. on MTV2. On that card, Bellator welterweight champion Ben Askren fights Nick "The Goat" Thomson in a non-title fight, Jay Hieron fights Brent Weedman in a welterweight tournament semifinal, and Michael Chandler fights Lloyd Woodard in a lightweight tournament semifinal. Ringside 10 also takes place Saturday, April 9, from the Bell Centre in Montreal, headlined by a Patrick Côté-Kalib Starnes fight. And Strikeforce returns to Showtime with welterweight champion Nick Diaz vs. Paul Daley, lightweight champion Gilbert Melendez vs. Tatsuya "Crusher" Kawajiri, Gegard Mousasi vs. Keith Jardine in a light heavyweight bout, and Shinya Aoki vs. Lyle Beerbohm in a lightweight bout.
In addition, we open by noting the open letter sent by two-time World Absolute Champion in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu Rodrigo "Comprido" Medeiros about the need to combat steroids and doping in BJJ.
You can play or download No Holds Barred here. You can also download No Holds Barred here. If one link does not work, please try another. The show is in MP3 format, so may take some time to download.
No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:
Beezid.com - Penny Auctions. Your #1 source for exciting auction shopping and outstanding deals on just about anything! Top rated, most trusted auction site online. Where do you shop? Beezid.com - Penny Auctions.
American Top Team. Whether you're a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at http://americantopteam.com/.
The American Sambo Association, which is committed to becoming the premier association in the U.S. dedicated to the advancement of Sambo. Sambo is a form of sport, self-defense, and combat established in the former Soviet Union during the early twentieth century. For more information, go to ussambo.com.
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Sunday, August 15, 2010
No Holds Barred: Mark Pavelich of MFC on Ontario Allowing MMA

On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman speaks with Mark Pavelich, the owner and president of the Maximum Fighting Championship (MFC), about the news, announced Saturday, August 14, by the Ministry of Consumer Services of Ontario, Canada, that "Ontario is taking steps to allow professional Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) events in the province." The first sanctioned event in Ontario is expected to be held in 2011.
We spoke by phone Saturday afternoon, just hours after this announcement was made public, about the significance of this development for Ontario, the most populous province in Canada, and Canada as a whole. We discussed what political and legal steps must still be taken for mixed martial arts events to become sanctioned and actually take place in Ontario, and the role of the Ontario Athletic Commission and its head, Ken Hayashi, who has been a long-time opponent of mixed martial arts. The always-outspoken Mark Pavelich also explained why, when mixed martial arts is finally sanctioned in Ontario, it will be the Maximum Fighting Championship which will probably run the most events in that province. And we commented upon some of the politics within mixed martial arts, the highly questionable and controversial positions taken by regulators in Quebec and Vancouver towards mixed martial arts, and more.
We also discussed the upcoming MFC 26: Retribution card, which takes place Friday, September 10, in Westman Place at the Keystone Centre in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada, and will be televised live on HDNet. On that card, MFC lightweight champ Antonio McKee, who is unbeaten in the last seven years, will face Luciano Azevedo. McKee has vowed to retire if he does not win by submission, knockout, or TKO.
You can play or download No Holds Barred here. You can also download No Holds Barred here. If one link does not work, please try another. The show is in MP3 format, so may take some time to download.
The No Holds Barred theme song is called "The Heist", by Ian Carpenter.
Make sure to visit the official boxing forum for No Holds Barred, the MySpace Boxing Forum.
No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:
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BJJMart.com, your premier source for all Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu gear, videos, books, and much more.
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FightBeat.com, for news, results, interviews, and free exclusive videos from the worlds of boxing and mixed martial arts.
We spoke by phone Saturday afternoon, just hours after this announcement was made public, about the significance of this development for Ontario, the most populous province in Canada, and Canada as a whole. We discussed what political and legal steps must still be taken for mixed martial arts events to become sanctioned and actually take place in Ontario, and the role of the Ontario Athletic Commission and its head, Ken Hayashi, who has been a long-time opponent of mixed martial arts. The always-outspoken Mark Pavelich also explained why, when mixed martial arts is finally sanctioned in Ontario, it will be the Maximum Fighting Championship which will probably run the most events in that province. And we commented upon some of the politics within mixed martial arts, the highly questionable and controversial positions taken by regulators in Quebec and Vancouver towards mixed martial arts, and more.
We also discussed the upcoming MFC 26: Retribution card, which takes place Friday, September 10, in Westman Place at the Keystone Centre in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada, and will be televised live on HDNet. On that card, MFC lightweight champ Antonio McKee, who is unbeaten in the last seven years, will face Luciano Azevedo. McKee has vowed to retire if he does not win by submission, knockout, or TKO.
You can play or download No Holds Barred here. You can also download No Holds Barred here. If one link does not work, please try another. The show is in MP3 format, so may take some time to download.
The No Holds Barred theme song is called "The Heist", by Ian Carpenter.
Make sure to visit the official boxing forum for No Holds Barred, the MySpace Boxing Forum.
No Holds Barred is free to listen to and is sponsored by:
MMA WORLD EXPO. The mixed martial arts community comes to New York City, featuring the Renzo Gracie Open No-Gi 2010 tournament, a Muay Thai tournament, MMA fighters from the Bellator Fighting Championships, training seminars, vendors, panel discussions, and more to come. The second annual MMA WORLD EXPO is a joint promotion with Madison Square Garden Sports, and takes place Friday, November 12, and Saturday, November 13, at the Jacob Javits Center in New York City.
BJJMart.com, your premier source for all Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu gear, videos, books, and much more.
American Top Team. Whether you're a beginner or a champion, train with the champions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, boxing, wrestling, grappling, and mixed martial arts at American Top Team. Check out their web site at http://americantopteam.com/.
FightBeat.com, for news, results, interviews, and free exclusive videos from the worlds of boxing and mixed martial arts.
Labels: Eddie Goldman, Mark Pavelich, MFC, MMA, No Holds Barred, Ontario
